Subject: Imagine Complaining (was: RE: Imagine and Freelancing
Date: 	Fri, 20 May 1994 16:00:00 -0400
From: david.wyand@canrem.com (David Wyand)

Hi Michael!

>Are you guys all working for Impulse marketing?  There are serious
>problems with both Imagine and the Amiga, and so many users spend so
much
>energy defending them.  I'm trying to make the most of my investments,
not
>prop up inferior products.  Hopefully, I'll find what I need with what
>I've got.  If I can be convinced, I'll gladly recant.  I'll make that
>decision rationally, based on the product's merits.

Listen.  You're on the Imagine Mailing List.  Most people are on here
because they use and like Imagine.  Why should you be surprised that we
say good things about the product?  If you don't like the cheery Imagine
attitude that tends to be voiced on this list, please transfer to
another.

I'm sorry, but you're not getting the most out of your investments.
You're complaining that Imagine doesn't do this or that, yet you
admitted earlier to not trying out all of Imagine 3.0's features.

It is true that Imagine does not support exactly 30fps output.  So what?
 There are many programs that do (including PD stuff).  You say you've
tried one, but its a waste of time as Imagine doesn't support it.  One
program cannot do everything.  I personally us Scala for all of my
animation viewing.  It is capable of piecing together an animation
faster than Imagine, and can achieve a sustained 30fps with most
animations.  I'm glad that companion programs exist and that I have a
choice.

You've been told what Essence and Forge are, but now you are complaining
about the price and that Imagine should have had these features from the
beginning.  Essence has been around for a long time, and I have yet to
have heard a poor vote from anyone.  LightWave does not even allow you
to have external algorithmic texutres (yet).  You are forced to use
memory hungry bitmaps (even the makers of Babylon 5 must do this) which
don't offer as much flexability.  Try using 3D Studio without the
external, extra cost modules, and see how your work pales.  If you don't
want to spend the money on Essence, Imagine 3.0 does offer a lot of new
textures, but you'd be missing a lot.  For someone who does this sort of
stuff for proffit, you sure haven't kept up with the possibilities.

I am also confused as to why we must convince you to stay with Imagine.
You have Imagine 3.0.  Play with it.  Spend some time with it.  If you
don't like it because it doesn't do what you want, then that's up to
you.  I've read of a few people trying to convince you, but you shrug
everything off.  I don't feel it my duty to convince you at all.  I can
only suggest.  I would suggest that you try to stay current in your
field, and if you don't like something, change it youself (such as by
changing programs).  If you do feel that Real 3D would allow you to make
more money, then I'd say that you have no choice but to get it.  The
same could be said for LightWave, or Alladin for that matter.

If you TRUELY want to be convinced about Imagine, use it.  Ask about
what you don't understand.  Use this list as a resource, and maybe get
on it a little more.  Nuff said.

                                        -Dave
                                         david.wyand@canrem.com

Now back to your regular rendering program...


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